Enya: with the clock from Anywhere Is


The Enchantment of Enya

Interviewer: Anthony DeCurtis

VH1 (USA) 6 February 1996

Begins with a quick montage of some excerpts of her videos...

Titles: The Enchantment of Enya

'River' is played in the background.

Anthony DeCurtis: It's hard to sell millions of albums while remaining mysterious, but Enya has done just that. Her records Watermark and Shepherd Moons have made her one of the most popular artists in the world. But relatively little is known about her. Over the next half-hour, we'll take you into Enya's world. She'll tell you about her childhood in Ireland, her musical visions, and her belief in the healing power of the 'Enya' sound.

'Harry's Game' is played, as two Clannad album covers are shown against a black-and-white shoreline view

From her early days in the Irish group Clannad, which included two of her brothers and a sister...

Three Enya album covers are shown, The Celts, Watermark, and below those, Shepherd Moons. Then a fourth album appears in front of these, The Memory of Trees. 'Athair Ar Neamh' is played.

... to her most recent solo album, The Memory of Trees, Enya has blended the contemporary and the traditional. She sings in English...

Text of 'Angeles' unrolls into view

... Latin...

Text of 'Pax Deorum' unrolls over it

... and Gaelic...

Text of 'Smaointe' unrolls over that. Cut to a view from 'Exile' video.

... letting her voice communicate more feeling than literal meaning.

Cut back to Anthony

Anthony DeCurtis: Talk a bit about some of the initial experiences you had with music, and how did music just enter your consciousness, or enter your life?

Cut to Enya, seated and wearing a black dress and black earrings

Enya: It's... pleasant sigh ... from having musical parents. smiles I've always had music. Um, ah, from... a very... young age I would've heard a lot of music. Um, my father still entertains; and my mother is a music teacher. So um... and in the area...

Cut to a map of Ireland zooming in on Donegal. Background music has just changed to 'How Can I Keep From Singing?'

... I was brought up in the northwest of, uh, county Donegal. It's...

Cut back to Enya

... known as a 'Gaeltacht' area. And, where you're brought up speaking Gaelic as a first language. And, there's a lot of Irish traditional music there as well.

Cut to 'How Can I Keep From Singing?' video:

... And though the darkness 'round me close,
songs in th' night, it giveth.
No storm can shake my inmost calm,
while to that rock I'm clinging...

Cut to Anthony

Anthony DeCurtis: The um, relationship also in...in terms of, y'know, Irish mythology or, or traditional music. Do you think there are elements in a... in that music that um... are kind of useful for the contemporary world?

Cut back to Enya, seen over Anthony's shoulder

Enya: In uh, my music uh, I've... I've heard a lot of, sort of uh, the influences from Irish culture, within the music. And one thing I have to say that's very strong within the music is uh...

Cut to a view from 'Marble Halls' video of Enya in a ruined castle.

... melancholy. It's... It's very strong... in... all the melodies. Even if it's an up-tempo melody, you have this melancholy feel throughout the melody.

Cut back to Enya

And uh, I think that that's something that um, it's very inherent of being Irish. smiles A lot of people in Ireland have that. Um, whether it's from sort of literature or music, or... It's, it's there, very much so. So um, I think um... I've taken that... from the culture and it's, it's quite strong in the music.

Cut back to 'How Can I Keep From Singing?' video.

... from singing.

Cut back to Anthony, seen over Enya's shoulder

Anthony DeCurtis: What do you think?... Is, is there something,... eh, y'know, in the Irish character, or in, in history that you think generates that?

Enya: I think so, because um...

Cut to Enya

... if you look back in Irish history, there was a time where...

Cut to a color drawing depicting someone being persecuted. 'Orinoco Flow' begins playing in the background.

... music was banned. Um...

Cut to headline banner, "IRISH WAR NEWS"

... speaking Gaelic was banned...

Cut to black-and-white rebellion photo with "REBELS BEWARE" handwritten. Pan left to also reveal "DOWN WITH SEINFEIN".

... Religion was banned. Um... Cut back to Enya ... All Irish traditional sort of instruments were taken away from the people. But it didn't stop them from singing. smiles They did, uh, what's called 'lilting', so as to be able to pass all the songs on and... So they're very passionate about their culture.

Cut to 'Orinoco Flow' video:

Let me sail, let me sail, let the Orinoco flow
Let me reach, let me beach, on the shores of Tripoli
Let me sail, let me sail, let me crash upon your shore
Let me reach, let me beach, far beyond the Yellow Sea.

Cut back to Anthony

Anthony DeCurtis: What kind of things inspire you? What kind of things will get your musical imagination working?

Cut to Enya

Enya: Um, I know that ah, going to... going home to Donegal...

Cut to scenes from Donegal

... is very inspiring to me, uh, because uh, I can just um, go for walks in the mountain side, go... for walks in the beach and it's... it's very inspiring for me, to be able to sort of unwind completely.

Cut back to 'Orinoco Flow' video and then back to Anthony. Music changes to 'The Memory of Trees'.

Anthony DeCurtis: Has your success uh, altered the way that you think about your audience? I mean, you probably, early on I would think, had uh, you know a fairly personal connection.

Cut back to Enya

Enya: I think from the beginning, it, it... was the same type of audience, um, because, on reading the fan mail, it's... uh, you know, the beginning of the letters coming in from sort of, very young children, to... um, a gentleman who only listened to classical music in his eighties. And... it crosses right over, which is incredible for me, and um... crosses over to different cultures as well, which is fascinating.

Cut back to Anthony, seen over Enya's shoulder

Anthony DeCurtis: What do you think that people in... places like Korea, or Japan, y'know, are, are responding to, y'know, in your music?

Cut back to Enya, seen over Anthony's shoulder

Enya: It is strange that someone in Korea, or Taiwan, or Japan are listening to me singing Gaelic. And yet being able to understand, um. They don't understand the Gaelic, but what they do understand...

Cut to an artistic depiction of the lines of 'Pax Deorum', typed in various curved lines of various sizes.

... is the emotion that's inherent in sort of, the melody, and in the performance. And they seem...

Cut back to Enya

... to be able to relate to this. So it's, it's strange that it doesn't matter... um, what language... that I'm actually singing in, because um, people seem to be able to uh, um, get involved with what, what's actually happening.

Cut to 'Evening Falls' video:

Forever searching, never right.
I am lost, in oceans of night.
Forever hoping I can find
memories, those memories I left behind.

Cut back to Enya

Well music is very universal. And it's um... it's... again, you know, the fact that... um... my own music is listened right 'round the would, you know, it's...

Cut to scenes in Ireland

... it's something... from Ireland, coming from Ireland. It's incredible to... reach out to so many different people. It's...

Cut back to Enya

... it's... Yeah, it's very amazing.

Cut to Anthony, now without Enya. Background music becomes 'China Roses'

Anthony DeCurtis: When we come back, you'll see how Enya's music takes her fans out of the everyday, and into the mystic.

Cut to Enya, seen over Anthony's shoulder

Enya: Music should be something to escape from everyday problems.

Cut to a class of yoga students, their eyes closed and hands raised in some relaxation exercise

It should be that moment that you can forget your problems completely.

Cut to someone getting their foot massaged

And, um, it's important to have that moment as well, I feel. So I tend to believe that music should be uh, quite therapeutic for you.

Cut to a quick montage of video excerpts and differing music excerpts. Open to another such montage after the commercial break.

Cut to Anthony, 'Cursum Perficio' plays in the background.

Anthony DeCurtis: Welcome back to The enchantment of Enya. I'm Anthony DeCurtis. One of the most intriguing things about Enya's music is the specific role it plays in the lives of her fans. They listen to it when they want to sail away.

Cut to the yoga class:

Anthony DeCurtis: interviewing yoga instructor Have you been using Enya in your classes for a long time? Or...

Cliff Schuman: (yoga instructor) I've used her a number of times and I find it especially nice at um, at the end of class.

Cut to the class at work

Cliff Schuman: 'Cause we do fine relaxation we're able to, after uh, vigorous workout, just to kind'a... to a very calm place. And just through... her music, it helps to really alleviate... you know, the mind.

Cut back to Cliff

And you take, take it more into the subconscious.

Anthony DeCurtis: Mm-hmm.

Cliff Schuman: So that's the whole aim of... a lot of yoga practice...

Cut back to yoga class

... it's just another method. Music is very important.

Cut to yoga student

Adam: (yoga student) Well it's very relaxing. Yeah, it just...

Cut to class, all laying on their backs.

... especially when we're doing the relaxation. It's just a...

Cut back to Adam

... has a flowing quality about it. And just um... it took me to a different place.

Cut to Maggi, yoga student

Maggi: It's sort of like you're on the beach, and the waves are coming. gestures with hand and makes wave sounds 'wh-shew shew'. You know, that kind of thing. Definitely. And that's always relaxing.

Cut to class, meditating with eyes closed.

Cut to occult shop, zoom in on sign reading "PARKING FOR WITCHES ONLY". 'Ebudć' is played. Close up on a plaque reading "Stop by for a spell".

Narration as someone is seen carving a pentagram into a candle base, and someone else deals tarot cards

Mark Elbert: (manager, Enchantments) Well, a lot of craft people like background music while they're doing their circles, that king of thing. This is uh, something... ... that's very... spiritually uplifting. Uh, I-I don't know if her practices are totally into the craft or the occult, but...

Cut to stacks of music cassettes on the counter, including The Celts, The Memory of Trees, and the Moonshadows video behind them. Zoom in on The Celts.

... you get trace elements that...

Cut to a straw witch doll

... definitely tend to show her as a part...

Cut back to Mark

... of... familiarity with the goddess. And that's something that struck out with me.

Cut to a massage therapy session. Music changes to 'Tea-house Moon'.

Judy del Villar:(massage therapist) Narration Well, I use it so my clients can be more stimulated and more relaxed into the massage, um...

Cut to therapist.

... when I work on them, it's really hard to um, massage 'em when there's traffic going on or... when the cars are honking the horn and stuff like that. So what I do is, I put Enya's music and it's like more mellow, relaxing, massaging. They feel much better afterwards.

Brief cut back to the massage session

She has a very visual aspect...

Cut back to Judy

... towards her music, and... when I play or even when I'm not watching, um... videos or whatever, I just have a visual sense that I'm someplace else.

Cut to 'Caribbean Blue' video.

Cut to Anthony, but 'Caribbean Blue' keeps playing.

Anthony DeCurtis: Is there a sense in which, I mean, i-in terms of your own imagination, as you're composing, I mean, do you... Is there a visib... a visual element to that?

Cut to Enya

Enya: Ah, to me it's very visual. And it can be landscapes...

Cut to more scenes from Ireland, starting with a brook, a lake...

... County Donegal, where I was brought up. It can be people, um, experiences. It's a combination of things. Um... but yet, when I'm... writing the music, I tend to... let the music take me on a journey. Um... so when I play the first note, the second note, I just go along with it.

Cut back to 'Caribbean Blue' video:

... with all you ever knew
They say the sky, high above, is Caribbean Blue.

If every man says all he can. If every man is true.
Do I believe the sky above is Caribbean Blue?

Cut back to Anthony

Anthony DeCurtis: Do you consider yourself a spiritual person, or a religious person? I think he then said "You don't have to answer that", but I couldn't hear it all

Enya: I think more spiritual than religious. I was brought up, um, a Catholic, and...

Cut back to 'Caribbean Blue' video, but not in sync with the music

... uh - as everybody is in Ireland - and um, I've derived from religion... a sort of, more sort of the spiritual side of it. And...

Cut back to Enya .

.. um, it's non... that I'd like to sort of walk into a church...

Music changes to 'Storms in Africa'.

... you know, when... there's nobody there, to sit. And, I find it very therapeutic as well, just to sit and ponder, um, in a church. The environment is very calming, and peaceful. So um, yes I think that comes across in the music.

Cut to 'Storms in Africa' video:

Though I walk through warm sands in Africa,
winds will grow soon to storms in Africa.
How far to go? I cannot say.

Cut to Anthony. Music changes to 'Lothlórien'.

Anthony DeCurtis: Do some of the aesthetic elements of, you know, Catholicism, translate into your music? Like, for example, you know, relationships, say the things like chant or... um... were just liturgical music, generally. Do you feel that... that that's something that in-informs what you do?

Cut to Enya, seen over Anthony's shoulder

Enya: Well, I have a great love for um, for hymns...

Cut to visual from 'Book of Days' video, but 'Lothlórien' keeps playing

... uh, because of uh, being in the... the choir. And when I was brought up I would have been...

Cut back to Enya

... singing in the choir. And um, I love the simplicity of the... the melodies. It's like you could tell what the next note was going to be, and that's the note it was.

Music changes to 'Book of Days'.

And that's... again a very calming sort of feeling. And um, I... I tend to feel that that influences within my melody as well.

Cut back to 'Book of Days' video:

No day, no night, no moment
can hold me back from trying
One flag, one fall, one falter
I'll find my day maybe
far and away
Far and away

Anthony DeCurtis: We notice that Enya's here in the 'Rock and Pop' section. A lot of people think of her as a 'New Age' artist.

Cut to music store, to the gentleman to whom Anthony just spoke.

Tom Chapman (HMV Rock & Pop manager) Well, usually, I guess what the 'pop' stands for in the 'Rock and Pop' is popular. And ever since '88,...

Cut to music stand where TMoT is featured under "ROCK & POP" banner

... with uh, the single 'Orinoco Flow'...

Cut to Moonshadows cover

... 'Sail Away', as I guess it was known...

Cut back to Tom. 'Book of Days' music has been fading out.

... she kind of crossed over and a lot of the rock buyers were buying it, so instead of keeping it upstairs, we... made a decision to move it down here.

Cut to a scan of the store

And her sales, um, reflects on what we want down here, where the public normally is.

Cut to displays of TMoT above labels reading "HMV Chart #5". 'Smaointe' is played.

Anthony DeCurtis: What about, um...

Cut back to Anthony in the studio, talking to Enya again.

... you know, someone goes into a record store looking for an Enya record, you know, they may find it in 'World Music' or they might find it in 'New age'.

Enya: Mmm.

Anthony DeCurtis: You know, or, rock, pop, and soul, whatever, you know. Do... do any of of those labels mean anything more to you than another? I mean, does... is there... one among them, or is there a particular way that you would characterize your music, that uh, that is distinct from those?

Enya: Well I think for any musician it's really difficult to catagorize... their music. And um, at the beginning, I felt there was a problem, because uh, with Watermark...

Cut to and zoom in on Watermark album cover

... this was a different, sort of, sounding album. And uh, I know that the record company were a little bit worried about...

Cut back to Enya

... sort of, where to categorize the music. But um... but now, um, you know, it's, it's not a problem, because uh, it... it's selling regardless of which... sort of label... that it's... it's sort of, uh, under. But um, when people ask me to describe the music, I just...

Cut to a picture of Enya in a white booklet from a limited box set of The Memory of Trees.

... call it 'Enya'.

Cut to Anthony without Enya. Music changes to 'Anywhere Is'.

Anthony DeCurtis: When we return to The Enchantment of Enya, you'll find out where Anywhere is.

Cut to 'Anywhere Is' video:

I walk the maze of moments,
but everywhere I turn to
begins a new beginning,
but never finds a finish.

After the commercial break, the montage. Then back to Anthony. The middle bridge of 'Anywhere Is' is played.

Anthony DeCurtis: Enya's music makes a direct appeal to the imagination. The imagery the music suggests is as important as the sound itself. Anywhere Is is the latest of Enya's musical paintings.

Cut to Enya

Enya: Well the song basically, um....... I think it... the... video is kinda reflective to... what the song is about.

Music changes now to 'Anywhere Is' from the beginning.

Uh, the maze of moments, it's... it's either this or that way. It's... it's really about life in general.

Cut to 'Anywhere Is' video:

I walk the maze of moments,
but everywhere I turn to
begins a new beginning,
but never finds a finish.
I walk to the horizon
and there I find another.
It all seems so surprising
and then I find that I know.

At the end of the video, cut to Anthony, seen over Enya's shoulder.

Anthony DeCurtis: Has being commercially successful altered the way that you think about success?

Cut to Enya. 'On My Way Home' is played.

Enya: I think for me uh, it's the love of the music I have, and I just know this... I want to do more, musically. So, I think it would be, regardless of the success for me. Um, if, you know, the next album wasn't successful, I think I'd carry on working with music whether it's soundtrack or another album. I enjoy it so much, so um, I don't think it would deter me at all.

Cut to Anthony, alone again

Anthony DeCurtis: For Enya's fans, her music is a soundtrack for self-exploration. And it makes for a journey that is soothing, and inspirational. I'm Anthony DeCurtis.

Cut to opening of 'Anywhere Is' video, but with 'Shepherd Moons' as the music. Continue montage of video clips and proceed to rolling clips to Shepherd Moons.

Note: Transcribed by Jim Waters and posted to the Enya Mailing List on February 27, 1996.